Shortly after my post on transcribing software, I was able to get a good deal on a SuperScope PSD410 (the device on the left without the CD player in the photo below) so I jumped on it. I've been wanting a SuperScope since the mid 90's or so but they've always been so expensive and I never felt okay with parting with so much dough on something that I couldn't see in person. I know that computer software can slow down tempos, change keys and that you can get a USB mic or USB box with mic inputs and use Garageband which is free on the Mac to record, but still the desire was still burning inside of me.
SuperScope has moved from cassette to CD and now onto RAM based devices over the years. The SuperScope PSD410 is the low end of the new line of recorders. The other two models, the 430 and 450 add a CD burner and a 40GB hard drive respectively to the mix but are otherwise, functionally identical. The 410 only uses SD cards for memory or can use a USB attached hard drive or flash drive. I got the 410 because one, I am cheap, and because two, SD cards are big enough even at 8 GB to hold like 12 uncompressed albums. I am only transcribing the one Bish album right now and it rings in at 440 MB. It will probably take me a year to work my way through the album. The 2GB supplied card is more than enough.
Anyway it takes a little while to get used to. There are so many things that you can do with it. Right now I am just trying to use it for practicing along with Blues in the Closet to get my transcription of Bish's solo up to speed and under my fingers. Sound quality of the slow down is definitely not up to the level of the Elevation software that I discussed earlier. I'd say that it is at the bottom of the food chain so far. Just a hair below the quality of Amazing Slow Downer for the iPod Touch. Definitely workable but 25% is a bit hairy and even 50% isn't all that clean. Slow down wise it seems the functional equivalent of Amazing Slow Downer but is much more convenient to use with the footpedal and knobs and buttons to control and adjust the loop points and playback speed. I suspect that I will be using it more to practice and work my playing of the transcriptions up to speed rather than doing detailed transcription with it. I will probably still use Transcribe for the detailed stuff as it sounds pretty good at 25% if I need to go there and having the measures and beats laid out makes the solo easy to navigate. But this SuperScope is great for practice, bringing your playing up to speed, recording, and normal transcription duty. I love this thing, it really has made my 'shedding more productive.
These things are still really expensive new, like $800 to $1200 depending on what version you get. Even getting a good deal on a used one took a chunk out of my wallet. Having this thing is a luxury for me as I already had software that could do much the same stuff, but it is nice. In the next few weeks, I plan on using it to record a promotional CD so that I have something to hand out to restaurant and club managers when I hit the pavement looking for gigs. Back when I had my trio we used a Zoom H2 and it worked great. For this solo piano CD, I plan on just plugging in my digital piano. If that sucks, I'll setup a mic and record my real piano. So in the next few weeks, I'll get a chance to learn the recording side of this machine. And looking through the manual, 90% of it is about the recording features.
After using this thing for the past few weeks, I gotta say that I love it. I use it all the time. It is great for figuring out heads when you're too lazy to find your Real Book and for just practicing along with recordings. Again a luxury but now I am kicking myself for not getting one earlier. Great for transcribing and regular practicing. It is nice not having to boot up the laptop and mess around with the track pad. The Superscope has a good file structure, you can have directories, move files around, rename them, etc. but what is great is that you can create Playlists like on iTunes. So it is easy to put together a practice set and have all the tunes in one place and the Suprscope remembers any fine tuning adjustments, loops, and speed adjustments for each song so you don't have to readjust those every day. And it will play through all the tunes in a playlist. For practicing and playing over tunes this thing rocks. You can just play through the set with it slowing don each track right where you want it and you just sit there and focus on playing, not on loading a new song into Amazing Slow Downer after each track. A real slick operation.
Finally just wanted to let you know that I've started transcribing Alone Together and have some more WBJ material to post so stay tuned. Oh yeah, also I noticed some typos in the transcription for Green Dolphin and have some minor corrections to make on the Blues in The Closet transcription. I will update the PDF's shortly and let you know when I have them on my server.
Peace Out,
Anchovy D
I have an ancient Superscope CD player which has pitch+speed adjust and AB loop. I bought it on eBay for $150 around 2005 or so. Have used it a lot to transcribe Joey Defrancesco Hammond B3 solos.
ReplyDeleteWas just looking at the Zoom H4n yesterday, for capturing stuff I come up with while playing.
I like the H4n alright, but then I found the Superscope PSD 410. Now I don't know what to do.
I have several WAV files, which are extracted solo sections of various tunes.
Can you tell me whether the 410 can play while recording? Can't find this info anywhere.
Thanks
m3bim@comcast.net
More questions:
ReplyDelete1. While the 410 is in record standby, can I begin recording, pause recording, then resume recording all to the same file? Or, must each recording go to a new file?
2. How long does the 410 take to finish recording and button up the file?
I ask this because the Zoom H4n has a record standby mode. When activated, one merely presses a single button start recording or pause. If you are paused in record mode, hitting the button will resume recording to the same file. This is very good for working on ideas as you go through the fingering and speed, because it will easily capture all the variations. I want the 410 to behave this way.
Thanks
m3bim@comcast.net
Slick,
ReplyDeleteAll the recording I've done on the 410 was just a regular style recording. You can definitely pause and continue recording to the file with the push of the pause/play button (or you can use a footswitch). I've done that a bit. It didn't seem to take to long to finish writing the file. I don't really even remember it doing that. I have a Zoom H2 and when recording MP3's it does take a while to compress when you "finish" recording. Maybe it's because I normally record WAVs on the 410 and it doesn't have to compress anything.
As far as playing something while recording, I haven't tried it but I think that it can. I think that there is mention of using it to record yourself with a play along and I believe that you can overdub. Either way I will check it out myself tonight and let you know.
Thanks much for your reply.
DeleteAnchovy,
ReplyDeleteI'm contemplating a PSD410 purchase but I have a few concerns. I've owned 2 PSD 230s for a number of years now and love them. But I'm looking for a SD card unit instead of using CDs as a source of transcription.
You say that the "slowdown" 50% feature quality is not too clean. What do you mean actually? My ears have acclimated to the PSD230 sound over the years when I use it to reduce tempos so I expect the same with this unit. Will I be disappointed? How is the it for doing quick note-by-note transcription? Does is stall at all?
And I understand that the USB is a "B" type. Is there any adapter included?
Just curious,
Thanks!
-H
Hemme, sorry for the late response but I think that you'll find the PSD410 at 50% to sound better than the 230 model. You won't be disappointed. When I mentioned that it was not to clean, I meant compared to the computer programs like Amazing Slowdowner and Transcribe which sound a bit better at 50%. Elevation at 50% sounds amazing no artifacts sounds clean as 100%.
ReplyDeleteI use the PSD410 for just about all of my note-by-note transcription since it is so convenient and works quickly. Bringing out the laptop with Elevation or the other programs is a rarity. I rarely have to go below 50%. Recently I was transcribing Bobby Timmons and did use Elevation since I had to drop down to 25% to 35% to pick up his solo which had loads of 16th note lines. But other than that, the PSD410 works great.
Occasionally when alternating between the tempo and A-B screen I will get a hiccup on the 410 and it will lose my A-B selection and take me back to the file select screen. It is not to big of a deal but it does happen about once every five sessions or so (I usually spend about an hour transcribing each session).
There is an adapter for the USB B type. It is a short 2 inch cable with a normal USB connector that will allow you to connect a thumb drive. I don't know why they just didn't put a normal USB connector on the device and go with a standard sized SD card but it is not much of a hassle. You can store a lot of MP3's on the unit with a good sized SD card and there doesn't seem to be much difference in sound quality slowing down an MP3 vs. a WAV file so I just use MP3's.
Can transcribe a YouTube video
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